Sad because DECNET was ripped out of the Linux kernel? Well, rejoice my friend! Someone has picked up the LinuxDECNET project and made it compile with modern kernels. It includes the "dnprogs" tool suite as well.

https://github.com/JohnForecast/LinuxDECnet

Announcement:
https://lists.dfupdate.se/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/thread/UQTY3CHFTAHDBMD2VZQAVYO6HXIIDVEQ/

So far from what I've tested it looks good, except for a few things: phone (not working), remote login from OpenVMS to Linux (other way works). Thank you John!

That's actually pretty cool. You would think people just wouldn't compile it into their kernel if they didn't want it. But now it's not even an option? Sad if true.

It hasn't worked since 3.x kernel. Sometime in between 3.x-4.x it broke. No one wanted to maintain it, so they ripped it out. Notice IPX is gone too. Not that there are alot of people using them, but I'd like the *option* of using them if need be. If you work with systems from the mid-90's to, say, 2010, you find IPX and DECNET. WindowsNT will talk IPX.

They ripped out shift-page up/down scroll back, too. "Use Screen" they say.

I've been playing around with dapfs. I didn't expect it to work, but it does. With dapfs, you can mount a VMS directory (say, a user's home) on a Linux mount point.

As per the instructions, copy dapfs.com to sys$system on the target VMS system. Run the N***** commands at the top of it:
$ MCR N***** DEFINE OBJECT DAPFS NUMBER 0 FILE SYS$SYSTEM:DAPFS.COM
$ MCR N***** SET OBJECT DAPFS ALL

mount -t dapfs kushal ~/Desktop -o username=your_vms_username,password=realsecret

You'll then get something like DUA1:[YOUR_VMS_USERNAME] mounted on ~/Desktop. dapfs uses FUSE. You can then interact with the files there, including read/write. One time it did hang and I had to kill the associated process from the VMS side before I could unmount the directory, so it's not perfect.

P62746
It's funny because it's true.
I have that reference card (from the wall), but in pages in a red binder.

P59703
>DECnet is a suite of network protocols created by Digital Equipment Corporation. Originally released in 1975 in order to connect two PDP-11 minicomputers
>1975
Threads like this are why we shouldn't let nursing homes have internet connection. Take your dementia meds and watch Countdown.

P59810
>You would think people just wouldn't compile it into their kernel if they didn't want it.
It's still dead code cluttering up the kernel source tree. And if it does get shipped in popular distros as a module someone will figure out a way of triggering modprobe to load it and then exploit one of the 6.000.000 buffer overflows inside.

P62746
>emacs is an autist rabbit hole that serves no tangible purpose, as GUI text editors have been accessible to everyone with minimum wage since the 90s
true indeed

P59888
>abur durr every1 should have ipx in their tcb cuz i might wanna play a dos game once every 40 years
you do realize these shitty little boomer protcols take 1 hour to implement an can be one in userspace

<one in userspace
>done in userspace

P63424
It was ripped out. Now it's a separate module.

I know, I know. If it's not blinking lights on a smartphone today's computer users can't figure it out. Pretty soon people won't even have to paw at the screen to make it work, they'll just grunt. When I take out Spamhaus, Cloudflare, Google, and Faceberg, the new network will not allow T***** - to ward off normies. I'm building the network right now, one VMS node at a time.

You know what? I'm going to install IPX too. Just to spite TPCnormies.
https://github.com/pasis/ipx

If anyone needs me, I'll be busy connecting Linux with Windows NT Terminal Server via IPX.

P63484
Emacs has GUI. Does your text editor have a web browser? I thought not. Emacs has IRC client. Emacs has newreader. Emacs has file browser. Emacs has debugger. Emacs has Tetris.

P63491
>You know what? I'm going to install IPX too. Just to spite TPCnormies.
You need to find something better to do with your life than installing obscure outdated networking stacks you don't understand in a vain attempt to appear smart and sophisticated.

P63543
17:15:09.518383 IPX 00000000.52:54:00:12:34:59.0452 > 00000000.ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff.0452: ipx-sap-resp Windows95 RemoteRegistryService 'XENOJIIVA' addr 00000000.52:54:00:12:34:59 MicrosoftIIS 'XENOJIIVA!!!!!!A5569B20ABE511CE9CA400004C762832' addr 00000000.52:54:00:12:34:59

cat /proc/net/decnet_nodes
1.15 0 56435 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000000d2 0x00000000 0x00000006 0x0000 0x0001 0x0005
1.12 1 65535 0x000043df 0x000007c6 0x000000db 0x00000059 0x0000489d 0x0000116a 0x00000163 0x000000d0 0x000b 0x0009 0x0000
1.11 1 65535 0x00003fd3 0x01db7c23 0x0000000e 0x000076e7 0x00013547 0x01ee7bfa 0x00007a7f 0x00007a72 0x0001 0x0008 0x0050
1.1 0 59590 0x00000150 0x00000150 0x00000014 0x00000016 0x0000024e 0x000003a8 0x00000036 0x00000038 0x0002 0x0002 0x0000

There's been some new releases and stability is better now. Mail (both ways) works as well as login, dapfs, phone, remote tasks, etc. The best way is probably to git pull the changes and leave the source in /usr/src so you can 'git pull' and rebuild when a new version comes out.

P63543
>You need to find something better to do with your life than installing obscure outdated networking stacks you don't understand in a vain attempt to appear smart and sophisticated.
jds a DOSer this is actually somewhat relevant

P63583
And who are you actually connecting to with your outdated networking stack?

ipx isnt obscure *****mer
now n***** shoutout to dj jd and my holmes at baltiair the rad apple coffeeshop be bustin though

P66130
When somebody asks why I use Tor I say because I can visit onion sites and shitpost on darknet chans.
When somebody asks why I use i2p I say because I can visit eepsites and download anonymous torrents.
If somebody asks why you use ipx your answer is...?

P66154
doom https://www.doom2.net/doom2/network.html
come on *****mie this is basic shit
how the nanotrannys have fallen

P66157
>Step 1 is physically connecting the machines together in a Local Area Network.
>Step 2 is getting the machines talking the IPX protocol over that network.
Implying you have any irl friends to play on a LAN with.
[spoiler: Is that literally it by the way?]

P66157
>doom
I could understand if you were learning IPX so you could hack into mainframes or other ancient corpo infrastructure. But pretending to play a 90s video game with your non-existing friends is pathetic beyond words.

P66170
my catchan frendos love playing doom over ipx
[spoiler: ipx was widely used with dailup for the masses its a good barrier at identifying *****mers]
P66170
>ipx
>mainframe
all my friends over at catchan hope your schizophrenia gets better

P66174
Just take the L.

P66176
sorry im not gay for you bro

P66174
>ipx was widely used with dailup for the masses
The 90s was 30 years ago dude. I'm not a *****mer you are literally middle age. Take your hairloss drugs and book a prostrate exam.

P66180
it took you about 2 hours of no u projection seething to figure out it isnt obscure even with the doom hint
>hurr im not a braindead *****mer durr
i hate obnoxious techlit tor schizo *****mers so *****ing much meow
wheres the *****ing ***** ***** the passive aggressive retard seethe is rubbing off on me

P66182
>it took you about 2 hours of no u projection seething to figure out it isnt obscure even with the doom hint
It [bold: is] obscure. It [bold: was] mainstream in the 90s. But the 90s was 30 years ago. Your only usecase in 2023 is to play a primitive multiplayer video game on the LAN. And for some reason you are surprised that nobody is impressed by this.

>obsecure
>mainstream
braindead *****mer esl or mind*****ed by double think call it
im calling all *****mers only speak *****merebonics and worship *****s
>Your only usecase in 2023 is to play a primitive multiplayer video game on the LAN.
*****mer copes cant tell how kino doom is needs to be hand held by wigger remakes on the insert handheld ***** soylent console here
you will never ***** same ***** negro *****ren under dusky desks in an abandoned baltimore office while playing doom with your *****buddys
[bold: WHERES THE GAY ***** ***** ADMIN]

P66187
>[bold: was] mainstream
>[bold: is] obscure
Things change.

>esl
You're the ***** who misspelled obscure.

>cant tell how kino doom is
ok lol enjoy your video game

>Things change.
<nooooooooooooo historical means its obs[bold: e]cure you hecken got to agree with me over sjwfree oxford or ill keep seething and ignoring all the historicalfag flooding on this useless site
depreciated is the word *****mie is looking for
>You're the ***** who misspelled obscure.
im shaking from ***** ***** shortage thanks for asking bucko [bold: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]
>ok lol enjoy your video game
coping is not an argument but *****ing *****ren is

P66199
>coping is not an argument
What's to argue? You've already admitted that IPX is completely useless in 2023 except for playing one specific video game on a LAN.

P66174
over here people actually use technology out of interest, not for watching ***** *****, catchanfaggot

P66204
>passive aggressive *****mer seething
not if you work with a novell shop
pure torture but it still happens
[spoiler: i wish you were right about it being completely useless]
>preemptive seething
sure the *****mie has no taste nor need to run a dos box and network it out of the wigger software

how does admin know about catchan

P66209
no wonder this place is garbage which one of you told me in the holy land there be kino ***** ***** here

P66211 Admin is a *****phile whats new

P66213
brannies busy

P66217
when will brannie stop being busy and post here or preferably back on catchan
i need my fix

P66220
start posting about niche enterprise software from 45 years ago and he will soon appear

P66209
>use technology out of interest
You do you. I'm not telling you how to live your life but being interested in things that are actually useful would be more productive.

P66210
>i wish you were right about it being completely useless
It's too late to play the "I know more than I'm letting on" card. I asked you what it's useful for. You deflected for 20 posts and then said Doom. It actually is still used in backend corporate infrastructure but you obviously didn't know that. https://infocondb.org/con/def-con/def-con-26/4g-who-is-paying-your-cellular-phone-bill

I don't know why you brag about being old and being interested in video games as if that's a good combination but whatever. Just play your video game it's fine.

P66225
im more in the mood for ***** *****
P66226
>I know more than I'm letting on
>It actually is still used in backend corporate infrastructure but you obviously didn't know that.
>novell shop
brother in christ get your schizophrenia and esl checked unlike a tor schizo ive said what i know lmao laff
>Just play your video game it's fine.
and ill ***** the *****ren too thank you vary much

+
>backend
day of the shark now

lambda netcafe is busy today

P66241
not busy enough theres no *****ren around

P66235
>novell shop
Dude I get it IPX was all the rage 30 years ago back when you still had hair. Still *****ing irrelevant waste of time in 2023.

>and ill ***** the *****ren too thank you vary much
Why are you trying so hard to make *****s look like retards.

P66263
>Dude I get it IPX was all the rage 30 years ago back when you still had hair. Still *****ing irrelevant waste of time in 2023.
i agree telecom is irrelevant *****mer garbage fire and a waste of time but *****mer telecom operators are so addicted to their public switching wiggerfaggotry network and *****cattle cells it hurts to watch
i also agree novell shops are irrelevant and a waste of time ***** i hate them but bucko guess what real life is like wigger management that cant put the funds in hapas must come to power
>n-no u the big retard hurr durr
braindead *****mer anti calling wiggers black with the projector lick xhe got

P66269
>novell shops are irrelevant and a waste of time
Who is using novell in 2023?

>n-no u the big retard hurr durr
I didn't say you're retarded I said you're pretending to be retarded to make *****s look bad. The question is why.

P66270
i want to say nice pic but im into little boys cope
atleast ur a ***** now stop *****ming
>Who is using novell in 2023?
well lets look at this wigger shit
https://enlyft.com/tech/products/novell-open-enterprise-server
<government daycare for wiggers
<who
<who
i hate novell wiggery
[spoiler: even novell hates itself and attempts moving for wiggux]
>w-why
no your just a retarded *****mer catchanners are high iq unlike nanotrannys cry about it
>n-no your just pretending to be retarded because i dont agree with you or oxford
stop sucking me off retard i want to watch ***** ***** in peace

P66263
hes not trying it comes natural
*****s and retards are teh same thing (well there are some retards, shikashi)

P66275
cope

P66274
>well lets look at this wigger shit
That's just a linux distro with novell in the name. Novell the company went broke like 10 years ago. [spoiler: might still find some good vulns in there though]

>you're acting like a retard
<thankyou for the compliment

P66282
<even novell hates itself and attempts moving for wiggux
here dudebro https://www.microfocus.com/en-us/products/open-enterprise-server/overview
>what about
i dont want to lose my contract sorry bucko
>Novell the company went broke like 10 years ago.
ill call opentext and micro focus what i hate the most
><><thankyou for the compliment
negated off cock

P66277
>cope
>a picture of some gay ***** shit with some random ppl added in
what does that even mean
you can never be sure if these fags are trolling or what theyre trying to say
until they be deadass in one thread and you realize they are as retarded as they come off as in one second of looking at them

P66297
dilate

P66297
***** is fine but homo***** is not.

P66306
no seethe detected going pass on this honest opinion

P66306
yeah we know stormfags ***** their 8 year old son tell us something we dont know

P66326
i ***** my 8 year old son

P66118
I2vmsnet is mine. Now I can connect to the node without having to use I2p to get there, or 'set host' from another node or use the operator console. That node doesn't have t*****/ip for security reasons. There's also a global hobby DECNET network. https://mim.stupi.net/hecnet.htm

P66154
P66157
There's a DOOM on FreeDOS that has IPX networking. Windows NT 4.x will speak IPX as well. The Mars/Netware stuff on Linux is bit-rotted though.

P66171
>learning IPX so you could hack into mainframes or other ancient corpo infrastructure
Also this. All the really cool stuff to explore speaks other protocols. Some Linux VPS someone left open? Boooorrriinnnng!!

P66225
You do realize we are two different people, right?

pure schizophrenia take meds

https://web.archive.org/web/20080702225937/https://www.users.qwest.net/~eballen1/father_xmas.txt

I know it's a long shot, but if anyone can find this worm you could get +150 rep points with this faction. It might be named "hi.com", and is likely a Digital Command Language procedure (script).

>A computer "worm" is a program that is self-contained and has the
>ability to propogate itself across a computer network. Unlike a
>virus, a worm does not modify another program. A "worm" will infect the
>computer to which it has gained access and, while executing, will try to
>infect other computers. The term "infect the computer" as used in this
>report will refer to computers who actually executed the worm program.
>A VAX/VMS worm will generally be in the form of a DCL command procedure or
>an executable (.exe) program.

>On December 22, 1988 at 21:52 (swiss time) a decnet worm was released
>from a European HEPNET node NEDCU2:: (20.117; interger form 20597::)
>onto the DECnet Internet. This worm has been called the "Father Christmas"
>Worm, since it's ultimate goal was to send mail to users from Father Christmas.

I went through my virus collection and I don't have it. Slightly related, anything new I found I put on the gopher server in /virus/. There was the old VX netlux server, but I can't find a mirror of it and it's long gone.

Here's a copy of the page, but the file won't download. T_T
https://1vx.ug/archive/VxHeaven/exotic.php.html

Anyone feel like picking through 60g to find it? There's a torrent.
https://archive.org/details/vxheavens-2010-05-18

>DECNET
what is the point in current year nanon

P82661
what are the signs of a worm?
port scanning?

P83026
Usually they just throw their code at their target and hope for the best. This is what Mirai does.
Father Christmas, from what I've been able to see, used the SUBMIT verb to submit a job as a remote task and (somehow) used the Mail11 facility. In DECnet, you can have a remote node execute a job similar to rsh or rexec.

P83015
How else could I have done THIS?
My work here is done.

P83035
ngl good edits
if only u made a thread about about NETSEC and a good affordable router setup for a white man tbh

P83035
ey jd how does decw$paint compare 2 gimp
saying i want to make shitpost oc

P83051
decw$paint is too limiting; I'd hate to make that in it although it's technically possible. The original was made in Gimp, then converted to XBM, one of the two image formats decw$paint understands (the other being DDIF). Then I dncopy'd it from the Linux node to the VMS node and opened it on the virtual X terminal. The vaxstation2000 (microvax2000 in workstation mode) is the only one I found so far that will become a virtual X terminal thin client and network boot so don't waste time with the others. Some of the others support color but they won't net boot from an Infoserver100.

>Local Area Transport (LAT) is a non-routable (data link layer) networking technology developed by Digital Equipment Corporation to provide connection between the DECserver terminal servers and Digital's VAX and Alpha and MIPS host computers via Ethernet, giving communication between those hosts and serial devices such as video terminals and printers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Area_Transport

Did you know LAT is available for Linux? I think it should be a part of DECnet for Linux but it is separate. This is the only copy I could find https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/latd/1.35/latd_1.35.tar.xz (builds on 6.6.x, probably others).

View from VMS (note Linux presence):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>admin add code tags>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
$ lat***** show service

Service Name Status Identification
---------------- ----------- -------------------------------------------------
(redacted) Available Linux 6.6.6
KIRIN Available Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
KUSHAL Available Welcome to VAX/VMS V5.5-2H4
LAD_08002BE5E5B5 Available Infoserver 100 V3.5
LUNAST Available Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>admin add code tags>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is the view from Linux:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>admin add code tags>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
user@redacted ~> lat***** -d -l
(redacted) Available Linux 6.6.6
KIRIN Available Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
KUSHAL Available Welcome to VAX/VMS V5.5-2H4
LAD_08002BE5E5B5 Available Infoserver 100 V3.5
LUNAST Available Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) VAX Operating System, Version V7.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>admin add code tags>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

On install, make sure to set sockets in /var/run/lat* chmod 666 or only root will be able to use it. Here's a login straight to an Inforserver100, from Linux:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>admin add code tags>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
llogin -W LAD_08002BE5E5B5
Password:

Digital Equipment Corporation
InfoServer 100 V3.5

InfoServer>
InfoServer> show mop

* MOP Counters *

Seconds Since Zeroed: 716156 Load failed, server limit: 0
Messages Received: 14230 Load failed, not contiguous: 0
Messages Transmitted: 14131 Load failed, file not found: 88
Messages Re-transmitted: 0 Load failed, read error: 0

Request IDs Received: 0 Load failed, timeout: 0
Read Counters Received: 0 Load failed, protocol error: 0
LOOP Messages Received: 0 Load failed, no memory: 0

Loads in progress: 0 Load failed, file too big: 0
Successful loads: 10 Load failed, bad file type: 0
Total loads processed: 10 Load failed, partition type: 0

Failure cache attempts: 108 Success cache attempts: 22
Failure cache hits: 86 Success cache hits: 16
Failure cache hit ratio: 79% Success cache hit ratio: 72%
Cache flushes: 0
InfoServer> logout

Digital Equipment Corporation
InfoServer 100 - Logged out of LAD_08002BE5E5B5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>admin add code tags>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

P85678
>VAX Operating System
How does this compare to Pfizer Operating System (POS) ?