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P107916
Entertainment media copyright madness
Wed 2024-09-04 08:52:38
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>buy commercial DVD
>put it in computer DVD player
>ERROR: "DVD ENCRYPTED, download libdvdcss"
>looks up libdvdcss
>it's a literal encryption cracking program illegal in some states
>can't use DVD drive to play a DVD sold in the USA without downloading cracking software
I'm just returning this and telling them "The disc doesn't work on my device, because Warner Brothers are *****ing dipshits and ENCRYPTED THEIR *****ING DVD just to give computer users trouble". Oh, right, the store says you can't return it after the seal is broken to scam customers that buy DVDs that don't play in DVD drives, but require special hardware the entertainment companies have made agreements with (which is an anti-competitive move by encrypted DVD makers and DVD player companies).
And I'm not buying DVDs or Blu-rays anymore. I can't use it on a computer without downloading a literal encryption cracking program.
Why was copyright protection ever extended to entertainment media anyway? There's no utilitarian value to entertainment media that justifies it. Copyright protection is supposed to give people that produce something useful for society an ability to make a profit for a limited period of time even when people could just copy their invention and mass produce it themselves for a profit without the inventor.
This bullshit came out of the USA's bullshit legal and economic environment. I'm tired of the deranged chaos. I'm tired of all the bullshit here.
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Wed 2024-09-04 09:07:29
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I'm giving this DVD to the public library, I guess.
Now thousands of people will be able to watch it for free, legally, and there's nothing the entertainment companies that gave me a headache can do about it.
Next time you're cleaning out your house of old commercial dvds, give it to the public library or just create a neighborhood dvd sharing box.
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Wed 2024-09-04 09:52:10
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Here's what I expect would happen if you eliminated copyright protections for entertainment media:
1. CDs and purchases of songs from internet stores would vanish, with free mp3s still being released to advertise concerts, shifting the song industry from recordings to live performances, eliminating the business model of record labels and their manufactured pop stars.
2. Hollywood disappears and cartoons vanish from the entertainment sphere, unless propaganda financiers pay the whole cost of production (no more subsidies by tricking consumers into paying for propaganda). The enacted stories shift to live performances and funding by donations.
3. Junk fiction novels vanish. Only the people that really want to tell a fake story write and distribute their literature for free.
4. Many video producers switch to producing educational media that still have copyright protections (documentaries, teaching courses).
5. ***** companies vanish or are rebranded as educational media somehow.
6. All video games are either funded with crowd funding, made as a hobby, or are online games with in game stores or are subscription games.
Does that even sound bad? Does it sound like a realistic outcome, or have I missed something?
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P107937
Wed 2024-09-04 10:33:27
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Or you could download libdvdcss, rip the DVD, and make it available to billions for free.
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replying to another GPThread
Wed 2024-09-04 11:28:51
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>Why was copyright protection ever extended to entertainment media anyway?
bc disney politely asked that it was done
>There's no utilitarian value to entertainment media that justifies it. Copyright protection is supposed to give people that produce something useful for society an ability to make a profit for a limited period of time even when people could just copy their invention and mass produce it themselves for a profit without the inventor.
blatantly incorrect. you sound like denpa
copyright never had anything to do with inventions, you are mistaking it for patents
copyright gives a monopoly over whatever dreams you had last night so that other ppl cant retell your dreams to others without your permission
but yea, its a retarded law and it keeps getting more retarded over time
copyright, once upon a time, actually only applied to copies, hence COPYright
nowadays it applies to anything remotely related to someones work, you cant even make derivative works without infringing copyright
yes, they literally made fanfics illegal
based ig???
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Wed 2024-09-04 19:30:11
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P107916
CSS was cracked like 25 years ago and most physical DVD stores have been closed for years. Are you some sort of time traveler or cryogenically defrosted person?
Practically nobody cares about DVD copyright protection anymore because theres usually a higher quality release elsewhere making them more money.
>nowadays it applies to anything remotely related to someones work, you cant even make derivative works without infringing copyright
It seems to only apply to some people. Some companys making LLMs and generative AI have repeatedly violated copyrights by this standard.
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Wed 2024-09-04 19:56:21
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P107916
>Why was copyright protection ever extended to entertainment media anyway?
Because the shareholders of those media corporations bribed your lawmakers. The only reason government does anything is to grant special favors to the rich and squeeze the tax slaves.
P107986
>It seems to only apply to some people.
The law applies to everyone but they only go after you if you have money. You watch TV and anime. Everytime you see "popsi" and "kola", that's the producers avoiding a million dollar copyright suite.
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Wed 2024-09-04 19:59:14
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you wont get a lawsuit if you download / stream through tor / i2p.
also its not illegal to fap to Mr. Guppy here
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Wed 2024-09-04 20:15:36
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>you wont get a lawsuit if...
Wow. So passive aggressive. So I made a spelling mistake. You could have just ignored it like a normal person. But noooo you have to rbn it in my face like that soy guzzling passive aggresisve little bitchtroll you are. Go and eat some soy.
[spoiler:
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Wed 2024-09-04 23:41:54
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P107986
>It seems to only apply to some people.
yes
just like every other law, copyright law only applies to the plebians
the higher castes of society only follow the rules if they want to signal virtue
P108017
Thu 2024-09-05 01:55:56
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So....just get the cracking support via libdvdcss? I've used it before, but that was a long time ago. Besides, the Playstations can play those movies.
You can probably yarrrr it from Postman's tracker/I2p. Most Hollywood types are leftists so I don't care if I rip them off anymore.
Copying does wreck income via artistic works. That's just how it is. Music acts don't make much money anymore from album sales but rather from touring/mech sales.
What title is it, anyway?
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Thu 2024-09-05 02:29:47
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>Or you could download libdvdcss, rip the DVD, and make it available to billions for free.
Why would I redistribute hollywood trash media and gunk up the torrent sites and waste my bandwidth?
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Thu 2024-09-05 02:35:40
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A library copy of a disc gets seen by a few thousand people max before it decays.
You're talking about worldwide distribution of Hollywood garbage, at a cost to myself. I'm upset about the ridiculousness of the current environment, but not in the business of giving greater reach to what is probably just psychological warfare than it already has. I'm sure it's already been ripped anyway.
I guess I'm being contradictory today, now I'm uncertain. I recognize the contradiction. Maybe it's not a good idea to give the disc to the library. I haven't even watched it yet, don't know what kind of Jewish psychobabble and fictional deceptive life messages are built into the story, as told by Hollywood.
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Thu 2024-09-05 02:58:33
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P108024
>lesbos
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Thu 2024-09-05 03:01:55
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>still doesn't name the title
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Thu 2024-09-05 03:02:57
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P108038
take meds schizo
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Thu 2024-09-05 03:07:50
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P107943
>copyright never had anything to do with inventions, you are mistaking it for patents
You might be right. I'm not a lawyer. My hot takes are sometimes technically misinformed.
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P107991
>The only reason government does anything is to grant special favors to the rich and squeeze the tax slaves.
Government isn't supposed to be like this. And it's questionable whether this qualifies as a government at all, because these people don't even defend their legal jurisdiction against other law enforcements, allowing Mexican cartels, Han Chinese secret police stations, and Sharia law enforcers to set up in the territory they claim to govern. A government has an exclusive legal jurisdiction, these regimes don't. Rather, these regimes are just front groups for foreign mafias, they don't care about the laws, they don't care about the territory, they don't care about the people, and so they really are more of an imposter government, a group of criminals that claim they are the government without meeting the defintion of it.
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Thu 2024-09-05 03:31:40
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P108040
Don't let them take your super power.
>still not seeing title
It's got to be a chick-flick or something really sappy then.
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Thu 2024-09-05 19:01:02
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P108017
>Copying does wreck income via artistic works
Stonetoss is a millionaire. The argument that artists can't make money without copyright law is nonsense.
P108042
>Government isn't supposed to be like this.
Government exists to exploit you. I'm sorry it took you this long to figure it out.
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Thu 2024-09-05 21:58:09
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>Still missing the title of the movie
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Sun 2024-09-08 07:37:25
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I watched some of it. I don't think I could watch the whole thing. I'm probably going to just throw the DVD away.
It wasn't the British sitcom I was talking about, but that one also won't play without libdvdcss.
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Sun 2024-09-08 09:24:19
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torrent your shit over i2p
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Sun 2024-09-08 11:08:41
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>that one also won't play without libdvdcss.
All commercial DVDs are encrypted. Windows and Mac have secret code to decrypt and play the DVDs. libdvdcss is basically an open source version of the secret decryption code. You're not going to find a magic unencrypted DVD just use libdvdcss that's why it exists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Scramble_System
https://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.txt
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Sun 2024-09-08 11:41:56
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will it play on my ps1 frisbee spinner?
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Sun 2024-09-08 14:05:34
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P108528
Playstation 1 was made before DVDs you dumb broccoli hair *****mer
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Sun 2024-09-08 14:08:21
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P108516
irc on i2p
torrent on i2p
blog on i2p
all i have left is self hosted email on i2p then i have everything
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Sun 2024-09-08 14:19:16
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P108543
only torrent on i2p is a good idea except postman is down 90% of the time
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Sun 2024-09-08 17:35:03
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>broccoli hair *****mer
Cool haircut actualité
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broccoli_haircut
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Sun 2024-09-08 22:47:25
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>You're not going to find a magic unencrypted DVD just use libdvdcss that's why it exists.
I was able to watch DVDs fine on the computer in the past using the same OS.
They must have included libdvdcss before, but now don't by default for some reason.
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Sun 2024-09-08 22:50:37
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>all i have left is self hosted email on i2p then i have everything
i2pbote i2p bote mail. Not maintained anymore I'm pretty sure.
There's also some site that will allow you to send mail. It basically just uploads it and downloads it to DHT tables encrypted.
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Sun 2024-09-08 22:53:21
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The DHTs tables storing messages makes it so you can't easily tell who recieved the message and encryption ensures on the intended recipient can use it (as long as the encryption holds) and it allows a time delay so you don't have to have a server running all the time.
That's how i2p does email generally, though you can actually just make an eepsite email server and keep it on all the time, that would work too.
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Mon 2024-09-09 01:26:56
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libdvdcss is often considered 'restricted' due to its license. It might be in another repo or you might have to get it youself. On my system, it's in the 'restricted' repo and you have to specially set it in the package manager.
P108598
bote is dead and gone. There was a pbote mentioned but no one I know uses it (if it's even still around).
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GNU+sage
Mon 2024-09-09 02:29:03
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Get this ugly garbage off of my screen. You clearly have a preference for ugly faces over beautiful ones. You are mentally diseased. Seek help.
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>i2p torrent
Cool and all but what are the private ways of obtaining the media before creating the torrent?
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Sun 2024-09-15 09:05:13
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>postman is down 90% of the time
Can't be the only tracker right?
P108598
>i2p bote
Not maintained but does it still work? The idea of a mixnet for email is cool.
P110004
Admin Spam trolling?
Does i2p have movienight software that syncs video playback among peers using little bandwidth only reserved for group chat? We need anonymous movie nights.
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* get inspired
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>movienight software that syncs video playback among peers using little bandwidth only reserved for group chat? We need anonymous movie nights.
This could be done with libmpv and a simple T***** protocol where the server broadcasts (timestamp, servertime) pairs to all clients. This will work as long as everyone has synchronized system clocks.
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/libmpv/client.h
Or the users could just do this manually.
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Sun 2024-09-22 04:25:32
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>I'm giving this DVD to the public library, I guess.
>Now thousands of people will be able to watch it for free, legally, and there's nothing the entertainment companies that gave me a headache can do about it.
Last time I donated stuff to the library they told me they couldn't stock it but would sell it at one of those "Friends of the Library" sales. There's probably another layer of bullshit that prevents them from stocking donations.
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I don't see why entertainment media gets legal protections.
Legal protections are supposed to give a profit capturing mechanism for societally useful things like new inventions and movies, sitcoms, video games, and music don't seem to be worthy of legal protections.
Like, someone that invented something tangibly useful should profit from their invention and not have their profits taken by someone that just ripped the design, because that funds further research and development. But we don't need the same legal protections for entertainment media, which have no tangible benefit to society.
Like, the basic layer of the bullshit is actually deeper and comes from legal protections for things that don't deserve it.
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If the entire entertainment media industry disappeared tomorrow, would that hurt or benefit society?
I'm betting it would benefit society greatly.
Then if you wanted intellectual stimulation, you'd be watching education courses instead of watching movies about a comic book character from the 1970's who is now a Latinix trans-rights open borders advocate.
And like, entertainment media has always been full of malicious subversive shit, because fictional stories can exploit glitches in the brain by educating them with fictional life lessons that don't work in reality.
In a fictional story, you can say that sticking fire crackers up your ass and lighting them gives you superpowers and everything works out if you just do that, and some people confuse reality with fiction, especially *****ren, and absorb that life lesson even though it is actually malicious and harmful. Fictional entertainment media has always been a severe civilizational liability for that reason.
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A fictional story is a kind of lying. And it's hazardous. There's an advantage to not making up fictional stories or consuming them, since it allows your thought processes to be more in line with reality. Consider briefly a problem you have, and take note of when you reference fictional stories while trying to decide how to approach that problem, then realize the situation in the fictional story was fictional and doesn't have to have any bearing on reality.
You can make a story where the character just acts like an idiot, and everything always turns out great for them because they acted like an idiot. Some people try to solve their life problems using that information as a factor in their decision making. And the people that made that fictional story are totally malicious, deliberately misinforming people about functional life strategies to ruin their lives.
/watch?v=LxoOaeVCuUI
/watch?v=dHqpslHtHmw
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sup pol schizo, care to share with us your opinion on remoulade sauce
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Imagine if you trained an AI on fictional stories, how wrong it would be on many subjects.
That's what you're doing when you watch fictional TV shows, it's what you are doing to your ***** if you let them consume fictional media.
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When I was a kid, I was watching a TV sitcom for ***** and my dad turned off the TV and explained to me that exposure to toxic waste didn't give anyone superpowers, and explained that TV stories were lies and to not do something because the TV presented it as a good idea.
The USA's TV censors saw no problem with pushing genotoxic racial hybridization and promoting the idea that exposure to toxic waste was a positive, even on shows aimed at small *****ren. Their bloodlines should be exterminated for treason, since their clearance of this show was clearly malicious. I wonder how many little ***** they got killed while promoting the idea that toxic waste had positives, something they did in academia as well to evade pollution regulations and food safety standards, promoting the idea that a little toxic waste in your body was actually beneficial, "hormesis".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis
Justice is done after the crimes are committed. There is no valid reason not to go after the bloodlines that conspired against the West historically. Why should their families get a future after they plotted against our families? Why should their *****ren get to live when our *****ren died because of their family? It's easy enough to look up the bloodlines of the producers of this malicious TV show.
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P107916
do not buy, and you are happy
do buy, and you feel only sorrow
solution? do not buy
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I didn't notice modern DVDs didn't work on a computer DVD player anymore because I haven't bought a DVD that was produced after that change for so long.
I don't feel any sorrow watching Hollywood trash media. Hollywood media has become so oppressively preachy and mediocre I am not sure the last time I watched a full Hollywood movie before turning it off.
Once I tried watching the DVD in question, I just threw it away because it was trash on so many levels, I could tell that from the first minute. The historical innaccuracies were offensive to me, they did up the main character as a dark featured mutt.
I wonder if part of why I don't watch Hollywood media anymore is because they keep putting ugly mixed race people and foreigners in everything. Like, do they not realize how off putting that is? They're supported by infinite money from the loan sharks, robbing us anonymously to support the production of crude filth, that's why they don't care if no one even watches their mediocre oppressive garbage.
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I don't feel any sorrow not watching Hollywood trash media.*
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After watching some iPhone commercials, that's what I'm convinced the "i" in iphone must stand for.
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>I wonder if part of why I don't watch Hollywood media anymore is because they keep putting ugly mixed race people and foreigners in everything. Like, do they not realize how off putting that is? They're supported by infinite money from the loan sharks, robbing us anonymously to support the production of crude filth, that's why they don't care if no one even watches their mediocre oppressive garbage.
lol this also happened in late 70s, 80s British media, except period drama.
yankees probably didn't adopt the cancer back then
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I don't feel any sorrow not watching Hollywood trash media.
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Mon 2024-10-07 05:39:36
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>just now finding out about libdvdcss
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I hate Apple.
With their wireless mouse and little keyboards.
No DVD drive.
Who tf do they think they are?
Robbing BSD like that, locking shit down.
Totally over-priced hardware.
Install
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>Install
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Can I play Stellaris on Solaris or is it not supported?
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