DJ Trump won 對付母狗

Musk won

P125586
its true didnt spacex btfo that other thing during some iss run

through a heaven of blue

god bless america

>possible homeless tent
>smartphone
this is so american in ways i cant describe

can someone explain how different his administration will fare compared to the jeetcoon? i dont want to see our brothers get *****d further by radical monolithic government?

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-end illegal invaders
-end forever wars and billions to Ukraine
-end DEI and racial caste system
-end inflation
-end two-tier justice system
and, most importanly,
kick in communists' teeth.

P125744
other than more tax cuts for the rich, he doesnt care much about politics, he will mostly do behind the scenes moves, exchanging power and money. maybe hell ban *****.
it will be funny to see what will happen with North Korea, last time he got played hard by the rocket man after having penned him a series of soppy love letters, nonetheless he could still try to invest in the relationship to mess with Russia and China.

>illegal immigrants
Did they not recently pass a law to make getting a VISA trivial for jeets with a fake degree? Was mentioned on 4cuck idk

P125845
Fake news.

P125846
You don't need a Visa or anything right now. Just walk in.

>>125847
i will harvest ur loosh goy

P125586

cant be more true holy shit

P125845
>other than more tax cuts for the rich
You say that like you think taxes benefit you in some way. All the money goes to Zelensky, Netanyahu and a handful of corporations.

P125843
>-end forever wars
Ukraine maybe but Israel will walk all over him.

>-end inflation
The only way to do that is to end the Fed but he's probably not going to do that.

>kick in communists' teeth.
Nationalist socialism is still socialism.

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>god bless america
God bless you, sir.

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>possible homeless tent
That green stuff in the background is called grass. I'm pretty sure they are literally camping. [spoiler: Or at least larping it for instagram.]

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>You say that like you think taxes benefit you in some way.
I just stated what has been his main policy contribution in his first term and thus what I believe will be his main goal this time as well. He is not going to do anything crazy. If you think that one would start dismantling the state by doing this shit Im happy for you.

P126169
>I just stated what has been his main policy contribution in his first term and thus what I believe will be his main goal this time as well.
Don't pay too much attention to people who screech about muh taxes. They're the ones who are getting the money not you. The only reason Elon Musk is a billionaire is because you pay taxes. Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, the state is the one that is shoveling [spoiler: your] money into that shit.

>his main policy contribution
He tried to build a wall but was stopped by the deep state. He tried to pull out of Syria but was stopped by the deep state. He calmed down relationships with Russia and North Korea. He didn't do shit to stop the genocide in Yemen because he had to keep that Saudi oil flowing, I'll give his critics that one.

All his trade war communism was bullshit. And he sucked Israel's dick like no other, moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, gave them random chunks of Syrian territory, cancelled the Iran nuclear deal. He's was a Zionist cuck if nothing else and with the CIA blowing smoke up his ass about Iranian assassination teams recently the middle east is the place to watch now.

>If you think that one would start dismantling the state by doing this shit Im happy for you.
Harris would have been the acceleration choice, can you imagine how mad those 80m Trump voters would have been if they stole the election a second time. Even blue pilled NPCs will look at 4 years of an 80 year old dementia patient followed by 4 years of a cackling retard and lose faith in the establishment.

Trump does have some interesting cabinet positions lined up. If Vivek gets in he might actually slash government spending and bring down inflation. RFK in a health position could actually see sugar and pharmaceutical corporations held accountable for actions. Trump also promised at the Libertarian Party Convention to free Dread Pirate Roberts who is currently serving a 6,000,000 year jail sentence for the crime of operating an onion site. Some good things could come out of this.

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>The only reason Elon Musk is a billionaire is because you pay taxes. Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, the state is the one that is shoveling [spoiler: your] money into that shit.
But that's why the focus shouldn't be on cutting corporate taxes, don't you think? Genuine question.
>He tried to build a wall but was stopped by the deep state.
Really? I thought he just didn't care enough. Reinforcing the national borders has nothing to do with libertarianism anyway, it's the opposite.
>RFK in a health position could actually see sugar and pharmaceutical corporations held accountable for actions. Trump also promised at the Libertarian Party Convention to free Dread Pirate Roberts who is currently serving a 6,000,000 year jail sentence for the crime of operating an onion site. Some good things could come out of this.
He is the one who instituted Operation Warp Speed. Didnt even pardon Assange. Lets hope for the best, I guess.

P125843
Send White men to Iran to die for Jews.

P126702
almost like us citizens never experienced a demagogue before, weird

P126195
>But that's why the focus shouldn't be on cutting corporate taxes
It wasn't Trump's focus it's the focus of the anti-Trump propaganda you consume. They want higher taxes and more government spending because that leads to more profits for them, or whoever is paying them.

P126195
>I thought he just didn't care enough.
There were tons of legal battles to stop him. Who is paying those lawyers to stop the border wall, that's the reason question you should ask.

>Reinforcing the national borders has nothing to do with libertarianism anyway, it's the opposite.
Libertarianism is about property rights. Arguably the people who pay taxes are the ones who own government land and if they want to build a wall on their land they should be allowed to. People who think that government property automatically belongs to everyone equally and therefor borders are illegitimate are not libertarians they are confused communists.

>He is the one who instituted Operation Warp Speed.
And still doesn't understand why that was a bad thing. Big red flag you are correct.

>Didnt even pardon Assange.
True although the only reason Biden let Assange free earlier this year was because Trump was about to announce he was going to pardon him and the Democrats didn't want to give Trump the win.

P126702
You might be interested in a book called Israel, Winner of the 2003 Iraq Oil War.

>ز🌈
Rainbow Z?

>corporate tax
P126850

>trumpvax
Never forget.
This is why I can't understand the victory lap.
Orange man is as much an enemy of the people as the alternative.

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>It wasn't Trump's focus it's the focus of the anti-Trump propaganda you consume.
He often congratulates himself on the previous cut and his stance on this topic is the main if not the only sign of continuity inside the republican party. I don't need to consume any propaganda to know it, I can just listen to one of trump's debates or interviews. That's the only straightforward position he took, because on all the rest he is often volatile and transactional.
He is backed by Wall Street types because he promised more corporate tax cuts and deregulation measures on M&A, they simply hope he'll replace Gensler and Khan, although Vance has expressed appreciation for the latter. It's so hard to believe it?
Apart from that, maybe his other big contribution will be the replacement of spics with jeets, I guess. Foreign policy is mostly done by Washington bureaucracy and think tanks. I believe Trump isn't more of an isolationist than Obama or even Biden were.
Do you expect Musk to act out of goodwill and sacrifice the infusions of public money he receives from the government only to make America great again? Because I was expecting Trump to drop him soon after the election but I'm not sure anymore. Any court case against Trump should be dropped now that he has won, separation of powers is paramount, but I don't see why the DOJ and the FTC should also drop any inquiry into Musk.
To me it looks like Trump just want these rich guys to submit to him, once they have done it, they'll get what they want, as long as it doesn't . Doesn't look like a win for libertarianism to me.

>Who is paying those lawyers to stop the border wall, that's the reason question you should ask.
Probably someone who disagrees with his policy?

>Libertarianism is about property rights. Arguably the people who pay taxes are the ones who own government land and if they want to build a wall on their land they should be allowed to. People who think that government property automatically belongs to everyone equally and therefor borders are illegitimate are not libertarians they are confused communists.
That's economic liberalism. Libertarianism is about freedom. Above all freedom of self-determination, freedom of movement and freedom of expression, things every nation loves to restrict. In the US the term was co-opted and it's used by people larping as libertarian inside the confines laid out by the leviathan. That's just the history of the term, we can agree than the newspeak definition is the most popular nowadays, which is not a surprise considering how powerful the state is and always has been.

>the only reason Biden let Assange free earlier this year was because Trump was about to announce he was going to pardon him and the Democrats didn't want to give Trump the win.
And you are the one talking about propaganda. Why would you even write this? Trump didn't pardon Assange when he was president and I don't care about what Biden did since the pardon came way too late.
And pardoning Ross Ulbricht would be very weird if the president won't implement drug decriminalization measures too. The guy wasn't sentenced for the crime of operating an onion service.

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t. Trump

> Vaxxdady
> hung out with Epstein
> hung out with Diddy
> said klaus is doing a good job when he attended WEF
> funded my majority of jews

P126869
>I can just listen to one of trump's debates or interviews.
Why would Trump brag about cutting corporate taxes in a debate or interview? Do you actually have a quote? That's not going to get him votes. This sounds like a talking point you've picked up from anti-Trump commentary.

>He is backed by Wall Street types because he promised more corporate tax cuts and deregulation
"Wall Street types" don't want deregulation. Regulations is how they strangle their competition. Corporations spend billions of dollars every year lobbying senators and congressmen to churn out law after law after law and you still think it's all for your benefit? You think what they really want is to sc***** all the laws they paid so much money to get in the first place?

>I believe Trump isn't more of an isolationist than Obama or even Biden were.
Obama created ISIS to destabilize Syria, started a genocide in Yemen and drone bombed nearly a dozen countries. Yes Trump had a more responsible foreign policy than Obama.

>Do you expect Musk to act out of goodwill and sacrifice the infusions of public money he receives from the government only to make America great again?
Do you expect [bold: anyone] to act out of goodwill and sacrifice themselves for the "greater good" or whatever? The only reason anyone gets involved in politics is for personal gain. The sooner you realize that the sooner you can start seeing all the snakes for what they really are. Trump is slightly different in that he is doing it for ego instead of money but that's not necessarily better.

>Any court case against Trump should be dropped now that he has won, separation of powers is paramount
They've spent 8 years making up lies about him being a Russian agent and prosecuting him for federal crime of filling out a tax form incorrectly. The only reason they will stop is if he starts punching back.

>Probably someone who disagrees with his policy?
You can't have it both ways. Evil capitalists only care about profit. If they're spending huge sums of money to pay lawyers to keep the border open what do they expect to get in return? Because whatever benefits them is probably not going to benefit you.

>Libertarianism is about freedom. Above all freedom of self-determination, freedom of movement and freedom of expression, things every nation loves to restrict.
Nope.
>The libertarian creed rests upon one central axiom: that no man or group of men may aggress against the person or property of anyone else.
It's all about property rights. You own your body and the output of your labor. You are [bold: free] to do what you want with [bold: your] property but not aggress against other people's property. Talking about "freedom of movement" is nonsense, of course you are not free to move anywhere you want, only a literal communist who doesn't believe in any kind of property rights wants that. Likewise with freedom of expression, you are free to waggle your tongue around but not free to stand on my property while you do it.

>Why would you even write this?
Because that's what happened. News leaked from the Trump campaign that he was planning to announce a pardon for Assange so the Democrats acted quickly to wrap up the Assange trial with a plea bargain that basically let him go. It was to take the campaign talking point away from Trump. So in a sense Trump did free Assange but I agree with you it was way too late.

>pardoning Ross Ulbricht would be very weird
I don't know what to tell you. From your own "reputable" media
https://www.ccn.com/education/crypto/free-ross-ulbricht-trumps-promise-as-president/
>at the Libertarian National Convention, former President Donald Trump stated, “if you vote for me, on Day One, I will commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht.”

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vaxtard gives CNN link

P126886
>I can just listen to one of trump's debates or interviews.
Why would Trump brag about cutting corporate taxes in a debate or interview? Do you actually have a quote? That's not going to get him votes.
He brags about what he has accomplished, simple as that. That has been one of his most clear cut policies, after all his anti-establishment talk he let a former G&S president design the tax bill. That's why I, and some of his backers I bet, remember it over his murkier political battles, so drop the propaganda shtick please. I wonder if he would have been re-elected, had he not done it.
> So former President Trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year. You want to extend them and go even further, you say. With the U.S. facing trillion-dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now?
>TRUMP: Because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we’ve ever seen just prior to COVID, and even after COVID. It was so strong that we were able to get through COVID much better than just about any other country. But we spurred – that tax spurred.
>Now, when we cut the taxes – as an example, the corporate tax was cut down to 21 percent from 39 percent, plus beyond that – we took in more revenue with much less tax and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country.
>inb4 he is talking about the whole tax cut, not only corporate, and he is only answering a question
whatever, to me it looks like that one is a meaningful figure to him as well

>"Wall Street types" don't want deregulation. Regulations is how they strangle their competition.
It's both, stop acting deliberately autistic. Big players want to be free to do all the mergers and acquisitions they want, in order to consolidate their power, while regulating small players.

>Do you expect [bold: anyone] to act out of goodwill and sacrifice themselves for the "greater good" or whatever?
I expect conflicts of interest to be limited to a certain degree. You say people like Musk got rich themselves through government grants and you seem ok with him talking like he is going to be the main advisor on government spending. I don't dislike Trump as much as I dislike what seems to be his current cadre.

>The only reason anyone gets involved in politics is for personal gain. The sooner you realize that the sooner you can start seeing all the snakes for what they really are.
Everything we do is for some sort of personal gain, nothing serpentine about it. Still, these highly individualistic impulses can be sublimated in some ways.

>Trump is slightly different in that he is doing it for ego instead of money but that's not necessarily better.
Ego is a big factor and it's not his fault if the MSM and others have done everything in their power to infuriate him. But he seems to be following the old script of the businessman entering politics and ending up unable to abandon it for economic and legal reasons.

>The only reason they will stop is if he starts punching back.
He has been punching back from the beginning. By the way, it's extremely misguided to think that it would be a good idea to beat through legal means a political opponent who already has a substantial following. Many have been saying lately that the founding fathers didn't think about the possibility of a convicted felon running for president, I bet they did and that's why they didn't prohibit it.

>You can't have it both ways. Evil capitalists only care about profit. If they're spending huge sums of money to pay lawyers to keep the border open what do they expect to get in return? Because whatever benefits them is probably not going to benefit you.
I meant to delete that part of my post. Anyway, a lot of people supported something like freedom of movement for unvaxxed people for what I could have considered the wrong reasons, I was still happy about it.

>The libertarian creed rests upon one central axiom: that no man or group of men may aggress against the person or property of anyone else.
I said the term was co-opted. Although I don't have anything against this definition, except for the fact that it's very vague and doesn't have to result in yours and the author's conclusions.
>of course you are not free to move anywhere you want
Anywhere? The border Trump wants to reinforce would cut in half a whole continent, I am not talking about invading people's homes. Freedom of movement shouldn't depend on the presence of certain state-issued papers in your pockets (or any chips under your skin).
>only a literal communist who doesn't believe in any kind of property rights wants that.
lol what do you know about communism? Communists usually want to be part of the small group of people who controls the state and owns all the property, and don't start telling me BUT THAT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM!!! Actually most people who dabble in political theory are used to think about the system they envision from the perspective of whom is goin to be at the top of it. Anyways, communists are some of the strongest adversaries of any radical critique of the state and it's the state who cares the most about the integrity of national borders.

>Because that's what happened. News leaked from the Trump campaign that he was planning to announce a pardon for Assange so the Democrats acted quickly to wrap up the Assange trial with a plea bargain that basically let him go. It was to take the campaign talking point away from Trump. So in a sense Trump did free Assange but I agree with you it was way too late.
But he didn't. My impression was that the Biden administration waited for the last moment before extradition. Your interpretation is plausible and maybe I had read about it, he still didn't pardon him when he could have done it.

>your own "reputable" media
You are the one quoting them. But thanks for the source. I had no reason not to believe he said that and I can even imagine Trump decriminalizing drugs, since that would be a boost for the economy, but I don't expect it since from what I know the republicans are still against decriminalization, more than the other party.
It's not very related, but just now I remembered that the first Trump administration passed some decent measures regarding prisons and the conditions of the inmates, although I forgot all about it.
>at the Libertarian National Convention, former President Donald Trump stated, “if you vote for me, on Day One, I will commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht.”
That's what he likes to say, on Day One! Hope he follows through.

I was thinking, now is probably the best time to push for a "national divorce". The communists are mad, and want to do *something*. Let them leave and take the trash with them.

There's no fixing George Floydistan. Although this was a great, great victory, in 2-4 year's time the voters will have forgotten the lessons they learned and reverted back into leftist.

Did you see where Canada fears all the barbarians will be moving north now? Canada just poses. The majority of Canadians don't want all the *****s and Haitians from the toilets of the world. They don't want MS13, VZ gangs, ***** gangs, or all the military-aged men flooding in.

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>Rainbow Z?
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>He brags about what he has accomplished, simple as that.
What you quoted was a debate question, I don't see that as Trump bragging about it. Like I said, it's the anti-Trumpers who are obsessed with the topic of tax cuts not Trump. Trump basically did it an forgot about it. The ones who are seething about it are the parasites who lost their free lunch.

>It's both, stop acting deliberately autistic.
It's a common misconception that regulations exist to protect citizens from corporate exploitation or whatever when it's the exact opposite. The last thing these corporations want is to lose all their special privileges and be forced to compete on a level playing field.

>You say people like Musk got rich themselves through government grants and you seem ok with him talking like he is going to be the main advisor on government spending.
It's better than Nikki Haley getting in. If the government is going to waste my money I'd prefer it to be wasted on dumb EV shit rather than bombing *****ren in the middle east.

>I don't dislike Trump as much as I dislike what seems to be his current cadre.
Who cares if the billionaires who own Google have a beef with the billionaire who owns Twitter. It has literally nothing to do with us.

>Everything we do is for some sort of personal gain, nothing serpentine about it.
The difference is between a person who acquires resources by selling goods and services that others voluntarily buy vs a person who uses force to steal resources from others. The second person is a snake and everybody involved with government is a snake.

>he seems to be following the old script of the businessman entering politics and ending up unable to abandon it for economic and legal reasons
Who else are you thinking of? It's also nonsense to suggest that Trump needs to win to pardon himself, I guarantee you all the legal bullshit would have disappeared if he had dropped out of politics and shut his mouth. Most of it is disappearing already because it all the chargers were made up to scare voters.

>He has been punching back from the beginning.
Yes he said some unkind things on Twitter. I mean now that everybody acknowledges that the Steele dossier was a hoax how about arresting some people for perjury and treason. Power up the electric chair. I mean punch back like Clinton or Obama would have punched back if people tried to pull this shit on them.

>I don't have anything against this definition, except for the fact that it's very vague and doesn't have to result in yours and the author's conclusions.
You can read the rest if you want. The problem with anti-establishment political philosophies is that everything you think you know about it is probably propaganda.
https://mises.org/online-book/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto/chapter-2-property-and-exchange/nonaggression-axiom

>Communists usually want to be part of the small group of people who controls the state and owns all the property
True. They justify it by saying the state will "wither away" at some point but it only gets bigger.

>Freedom of movement shouldn't depend on the presence of certain state-issued papers in your pockets (or any chips under your skin).
Movement depends on having permission from the owner of the land you want to move into. Taxpayers voting for a border wall is more consistent with libertarian theory than letting the border be a free for all and the people who were forced to pay for it don't have any say.

>it's the state who cares the most about the integrity of national borders
Clearly the current state doesn't though.

P126930
>I was thinking, now is probably the best time to push for a "national divorce". The communists are mad, and want to do *something*. Let them leave and take the trash with them.
Totally. Commies could have everything they want (open borders, abortions, universal healthcare, UBI etc.) literally tomorrow if California just left the union.